Tony Blair retires

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Postby Miserable Liar » Tue May 01, 2007 12:38 pm

Personally, I don't know. I like the way he speaks, makes me chuckle. On that note I will miss him.
What's your view?

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Postby Mr-Shankly » Tue May 01, 2007 5:31 pm

Well he has left behind a bloody legacy behind in Iraq and has been totally subserviant to the USA's terrorism. Put about some damaging policies here at home in the UK,

Privatisation
University Fee's
Tried to 90 days without trial
compulsury ID cards
Cutting benefits for lone parents
Not repealed Tory policies

Essentially he is very authoritarian and on the whole operates a centre right position.
Brown will presumably win, hopefully after a challenge from McDonnell who will promote popular socialist policies to the country, if that is allowed. Brown will not be much different, so I am not paticularly pleased about his depature. No real electoral alternative so the political future looks pretty bleak.

He has brought about some good things though.

Minimum wage
Gay rights
NI peace
Banning fox hunting.
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Postby Miserable Liar » Tue May 01, 2007 9:43 pm

I'm 17, so the first day he was PM I was 7, is it weird that I can remember his first day in power? I remember seing him walking into his house on GMTV or something when I was getting ready for school. And although I don't really keep up with things that he does, it's going to be weird him not being PM.
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Postby chicken » Wed May 02, 2007 12:06 am

Miserable Liar wrote:I'm 17, so the first day he was PM I was 7, is it weird that I can remember his first day in power? I remember seing him walking into his house on GMTV or something when I was getting ready for school. And although I don't really keep up with things that he does, it's going to be weird him not being PM.


I'm glad you bring that point up. When it comes to politics, perspective is incredibly important.
For example:
-I've been fully cognizant of <strike>Adolf</strike> G. W. Bush's reign.
-Same for Clinton.
-Same for Bush Sr.
-Same for Reagan.
-Same for Carter.
-By the time we get to Ford, I didn't pay much attention to politics.
I feel bad for the youth of America who can't remember past GW. Clinton had our debt to record lows. Carter was friggin brilliant---a bit spineless, but brilliant nonetheless. I'd take Bush Sr. over Jr. any day of the week, though to me that is the same as asking for a broken hip v. a broken spine (not just a single vertebrae mind you :P )


At the risk of being gagged, bound, drug to the edge of the village, and stoned to death, I think Blair will be reflected positively in history. However, just for the record, I must agree with Pete in saying he was a bit too much of a patsy for the american agenda....though on the bigger scheme of things I'm not too sure what options he had at his disposal--I'd imagine it is difficult not to bark along with the big dog when you are on his side of the track from the beginning.

This is the first I had heard/read about it. What's next for the UK? Election? Promotion? What?

I'd like to think that regardless of what any may feel, Tony did his best with what he had.
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Postby Miserable Liar » Wed May 02, 2007 12:59 am

Some guy called Gordon Brown filling in, I think.
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Postby Truman Capote » Wed May 02, 2007 1:13 am

Hey, generally it's always the same guy with a different mask, so don't worry.
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Postby Mr-Shankly » Wed May 02, 2007 4:01 pm

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4qRRJNBV0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_4qRRJNBV0</a>

Interesting video. The night he came to power.. so many people were obviously full of hope that night.
If you can ignore the annoying voice at the start.
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Postby Mr-Shankly » Wed May 02, 2007 7:39 pm

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Ten years ago today was brilliant. It was a euphoric sunny optimistic morning. It's hard to remember it like that, just as it's hard to recall you had a wonderful romantic wedding day, if it turned out you'd married a junkie who then sold your furniture and smoked your hamster. "
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Postby helmoz » Thu May 03, 2007 12:04 am

i was 10 years old in 1997, i remember there was a lot of that hope and optimism, lots of pictures of cheering crowds, that sort of thing.
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blair is a really good public speaker, if you compare him to bush there is really no contest. plus he has made a lot of progress with northern ireland and we haven't had any problems with the IRA for a while - shame that his foreign policy has created problems with other terror groups... i agree with mr-shankly's lists of good and bad things he has done. i think if you look at the first few years of blair as PM it looked like he was going to leave a really good legacy, it's only the past few years where he has made the really big noticeable mistakes like iraq so now it looks like his legacy wont be so good. overall, a bit of bad and a bit of good.
it's 1am so i'm probably not awake enough to be discussing stuff like politics, so i'll be off to bed now.
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Postby Cracked Pleasures » Fri May 04, 2007 7:51 pm

I dislike his attitude towards the USA government and his aid to what I consider a criminal government. The UK should have not participated in that farce that is happening in Iraq. But I am thankful to him for what he did for Northern Ireland and how this province is booming economically and how he gave it a bright future again.
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Postby Still Ill » Sat May 05, 2007 12:48 am

So without having done thorough research, he chose to retire or is it a coincidence after 10 years? How long can you serve?

He seemed enjoyable enough, on the times I did hear him speak or casually read about him.
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Postby Cracked Pleasures » Sun May 06, 2007 10:39 am

He chose himself to not go for re-election. The Iraq war participation has made a lot of Britons very angry and Blair has been under a lot of pressure and critics. I think this influenced his decision to take a step aside and leave the position to someone else.
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