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Racism in the UK

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Postby Dave » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:56 am

Hey.

This is for all those who live in the UK. Do you guys see/feel a lot of racist/nationalistic attitudes?

The only reason I ask is because we have been talking a lot about the KKK in school and I've learned the KKK have a strong sense of pride for their Scottish/Anglican heritage.

Just curious.

(And for the record, I'm completely against hate in all forms.)

PS: I've read that Morrissey has been considered racist. (Because of his Asian boy song I think?) Not quite too sure on that.
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Postby elko » Fri Jan 06, 2006 1:33 am

I see very little in my city, except for the English-Welsh stuff which is considered okay. The only thing I can remember recently were one or two cunts at a City match aiming verbal at black players on the opposition side (yet when Leroy Lita, a black man, scored our winning goal they were magically able to put aside their prejudice). They were roundly derided and reported to stewards.

The most racial tension is in places where there are a large ethnic population- places like Bradford and Luton spring to mind- but it's certainly on the decrease. There are always going to be people with nationalistic attitudes, but I don't think this is a serious long-term problem. My personal worry is that the desire from officious nobodies to be politically correct can cause a backlash from the anti-PC brigade that will border on being right-wing (e.g. 'this is our country and we can say what we like' etc).

But getting round to your question <!--emo&:ph34r:-->Image<!--endemo--> - I don't think that the KKK can be linked to what is going on in the UK today.

(I will leave the Morrissey question for others to debate, I'm not sure I want to get into it!)
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Postby Splinter » Fri Jan 06, 2006 12:11 pm

We do have racism, we in holland are having hard times with muslim people,
some politics have an opinion about them and some of the politics are
threatend already or have been killed.

Racism is everywhere, it's something you can't stop... some here are admires of the way Hitler thought (Neo-Nazi's)

Did you know Londsdale London is almost illegal here? It is Hooligan but also Neo-Nazi clothing here..

L.O.N.D.S.D.A.L.E. stands for something like:
Let Us Dutch Together Eliminate All Foreigns (translated)

They Listen to hardcore music, don't know it's familiar with you in England. But it sucks so hard.. but it's very popular!

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Postby Grim O'Grady » Fri Jan 06, 2006 5:13 pm

the kkk are an American nazi organisation I thought, so why they'd be in the UK baffles me, I mean we've got our own nazi pricks over here already. I guess you can tell by now that I'm an anti-racist & not just in talk but also in action. I use to live in an area of Bolton that had a 50/50 mix of white & asian population, we had neighbourly disputes but never anything of a racialist nature. I'm now living in Edinburgh & it appears to be an all white neighbourhood, not that I've checked the whole neighbourhood tbh. I've not heard anything racist either but then again I've not heard much, it's these bloody scots they can't speak english (just kidding).

On the Morrissey is he/isn't he racist, obviously I'm going to put the 'isn't he' arguement! I won't bore you with a long thesis, so my point is I was at the Morrissey gig in Liverpool in 1999 where he said that "eating meat was akin to beating women up, child molesting & racism" before singing Meat is Murder, ok I'm not word perfect on his quote but you get the gist.

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Postby HadjiQuest » Fri Jan 06, 2006 10:29 pm

The KKK started as a band of confederate US Civil War veterans who made their attacks in an attempt to slow down the reconstruction of the South. Their early targets included Blacks, Union Army Reconstruction officials, and prominent Catholics & Jews. Upon formation, their biggest target was Republican voters living in the South. It was broken up in the 1870s, after an anti-Klan bill was passed.

So, I'm not so sure about the whole Scottish/Anglican pride thing.

However, the second coming of the Klan is a little different. It sprung up from an extremely popular movie (even endorsed by Woodrow Wilson, president at the time). The movie, however, based the Klan's looks and actions on Scottish tradition. Soon after the movie, there was a super-hyped murder case with a Jewish man as the lead suspect. A new KKK formed, to kidnap this man from the police, and then lynch him. So, there's your Scottish lineage.
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Postby Splinter » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:37 am

sure don't want to meet these guys, with their crossburning rituals..
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Postby helmoz » Sat Jan 07, 2006 3:45 pm

i've seen a lot of racist attitudes in certain places (i.e. at school), but everywhere else in the UK isnt so bad.




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Postby Alabaster Crashes Down » Sat Jan 07, 2006 7:47 pm

I've been the victim of it but not recently
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Postby the_queen_is_dead » Sat Jan 07, 2006 11:02 pm

I must be quite lucky in that I don't think I've ever seen racism happening in front of me..it's always just been on the tv.

<!--QuoteBegin--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE </td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin-->I won't bore you with a long thesis, so my point is I was at the Morrissey gig in Liverpool in 1999 where he said that "eating meat was akin to beating women up, child molesting & racism" before singing Meat is Murder, ok I'm not word perfect on his quote but you get the gist.<!--QuoteEnd--></td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'><!--QuoteEEnd-->

OH MY GIDDY AUNT. he really said that? That's the most amazing yet stupid thing I've ever heard. Still love him though <!--emo&:lol:-->Image<!--endemo-->
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Postby the_queen_is_dead » Tue Jan 10, 2006 10:53 pm

It's not in the UK, but it is related to racism-

I got shown this band today called Prussian Blue, two girls who are now 13 ish, but when they started out they were 8-

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Yes they are wearing t-shirts with Hitler cartoons on them. They sing about how white people are better than black people and all this load of crap. Apparently they're massive, and appeal to their generation more than anti-white music (not my words...some article said that, i'm assuming they were talking about RnB or something?) Can you believe it? 8 YEAR OLDS?!

They're called Lynx and lamb. No wonder they're disturbed.

I don't sound it, but I am pretty much speechless inside. I really don't understand how someone could do that.
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Postby helmoz » Tue Jan 10, 2006 11:32 pm

ive heard of them before too, theyre massive in america, im hoping it's cos theyre twins which is considered "cute" (i hope theyre not massive cos theres loads of nazis about... altho that probably is the reason why). they were nearly given a record deal from warner, but then someone listened properly to one of their songs and realised it was racist, so they dropped the deal.
they and their parents are neo-nazis. their dad had loads of nazi memorabillia. when he split with their mum, she got the kids and loads of his nazi stuff, and brought them up to be nazis. theyve recently moved house cos their mum thought there were too many non-whites in their town.




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Postby Still Ill » Wed Jan 11, 2006 6:56 am

<!--QuoteBegin-the_queen_is_dead+Jan 10 2006, 02:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (the_queen_is_dead @ Jan 10 2006, 02:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> It's not in the UK, but it is related to racism-

I got shown this band today called Prussian Blue, two girls who are now 13 ish, but when they started out they were 8-

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Yes they are wearing t-shirts with Hitler cartoons on them. They sing about how white people are better than black people and all this load of crap. Apparently they're massive, and appeal to their generation more than anti-white music (not my words...some article said that, i'm assuming they were talking about RnB or something?) Can you believe it? 8 YEAR OLDS?!

They're called Lynx and lamb. No wonder they're disturbed.

I don't sound it, but I am pretty much speechless inside. I really don't understand how someone could do that. <!--QuoteEnd--> </td></tr></table><div class='postcolor'> <!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's disturbing. Those pretty little Aryan girls have a huge wake-up call awaiting them one day, one can only hope.
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Postby Alabaster Crashes Down » Wed Jan 11, 2006 7:14 pm

I saw a documentary on them - Louis Theroux meets the nazis.

It was awful.
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