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Strangeways • View topic - Moz vs. Marr

Moz vs. Marr

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Postby Qvist » Thu Nov 02, 2006 6:23 pm

To me, from the very beginning, The Smiths has been more about the music than the lyrics (great though they are), and the music has always been more about the guitars than the vocals. It's just that melodious drive from the lead guitar that makes them such a unique band. So, I always used to consider Marr as really the key creative figure in the band. Lately however I am not so sure. When I look at what Marr has done since The Smiths, I don't see that he has left much of an imprint anywhere. He failed to put his stamp in any way on The The, for example. Morrissey on the other hand has not only produced incomparably better things, his production is also much more reminiscent of what The Smiths did. So, on the strength of that, I am compelled to conclude that he seems likely to also have been the main creative force in The Smiths on the purely musical side. Maybe one way of putting it was that he provided the spirit while Marr provided the technique.

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Postby Cracked Pleasures » Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:12 pm

I find it a hard one. I would say Morrissey because it's the intelligence and emotions in his lyrics that turned me into a Smiths fan. But then as well, Marr is the reason why I prefer the Smiths to Morrissey solo, because he adds something special to those lyrics and voice, there was a unique chemistry existing there where Marr just wrote the perfect music for those words (or Moz writing the perfect words to those riffs) and that's what truely made the Smiths what they are. If I must choose one, I'd say Moz, but I find it a bit unfair towards Marr so I may go for both in all fairness.
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Postby Pashernate_Lover » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:37 am

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Postby charles » Sat Nov 11, 2006 3:17 pm

Moz n Marr is just about a perfect example of a symbiotic relationship.
You can whistle (or hum!) along to Moz's singing, and seamlessly carry on whistling to JM's guitar parts and then back into the vocals and so on; there is always a melody. Vey few pop groups have been that consistent.
A thought- Johnny Marr could have knocked on Boy George's door. Go on- think about that!
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Postby Bouazizi » Mon Nov 27, 2006 11:16 pm

i think the fusion between the two was too great to be seperated.

and for this reason, i'd have to say that one is equally as good as the other!

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