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Postby elko » Thu May 11, 2006 10:28 pm

I'm making a Smiths/Morrissey mix CD for someone who has hardly heard any, and has disliked what they've heard.

What tracks should I put on? Which songs are accessible enough to win anyone over? (Smiths & Moz solo, but bear in mind I'm trying to avoid the tracks that will confirm the miserable, moping stereotype.)
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Postby Still Ill » Thu May 11, 2006 10:44 pm

Oh, from Moz' canon please include 'The Lazy Sunbathers' and 'Boxers'! They're just beautiful.

Smiths, what come to mind:
Stop Me...,
Still Ill,
Cemetry Gates

Are you looking for middle of the road stuff that won't scare 'em off?! :lol:
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Postby chicken » Thu May 11, 2006 10:49 pm

the last of the famous international playboys

that one is quite catchy.
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Postby rubygirl » Thu May 11, 2006 10:51 pm

elko wrote:I'm making a Smiths/Morrissey mix CD for someone who has hardly heard any, and has disliked what they've heard.

What tracks should I put on? Which songs are accessible enough to win anyone over? (Smiths & Moz solo, but bear in mind I'm trying to avoid the tracks that will confirm the miserable, moping stereotype.)

What have they heard and disliked? It's important to judge from this...And depends on what they like in general and consider acceptible.
I would generally suggest
A Rush And A Push
There Is Light
Some Girls

They are usually liked even by my not-liking-The-Smiths friends.
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Postby Still Ill » Thu May 11, 2006 10:55 pm

I forgot about 'There is a light'. Naturally.
I was going to ask too, Ruby, what he/she's already listened to.
Yes, Chicken, that one too.

How far have you gotten with it already, Ellis?
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Postby elko » Thu May 11, 2006 11:17 pm

I'm not sure what he's heard, but going by the feedback it's mainly the more dramatic stuff, and some newer Moz singles. Yes, I am basically looking for middle of the road, but also I don't want to shy away from the more emotional stuff - just trying to ease it in gently in the space of an hour...

I haven't got very far at all, only chucking some tracks into iTunes (no order):

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I find it so hard to judge The Smiths objectively now...should I replace Hairdresser On Fire with the Vini Reilly version?
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Postby rubygirl » Thu May 11, 2006 11:27 pm

I cannot speak of Morrissey's stuff, but from The Smiths' songs you could include
Sheila Take A Bow
Girl Afraid
These Things Take Time
Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want
London
You Just Haven't ... you could arrange them on a 'contrast principle' if he thinks The Smiths are just some miserable moaners and nothing more...or at least I would go for these tracks
and Shoplifters - definitely. :)
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Postby Grim O'Grady » Thu May 11, 2006 11:45 pm

I'd stick 'How Soon Is Now?' on as he's still singing it these days & it's a quality track

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Postby TheLuckIveHad » Fri May 12, 2006 12:11 am

you gotta add 'Interesting Drug'
I'll Never Make That Mistake Again.
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Postby Pashernate_Lover » Fri May 12, 2006 2:22 am

THIS CHARMING MAN!!!! :D
A note upon his desk
"P.S. Bring Me Home And Have Me!"
Leather elbows on a tweed coat
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Is THAT the best you can do ?
So came his reply :
"But on the desk is where I want you!"
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Postby Truman Capote » Fri May 12, 2006 2:43 am

Half A Person and Yes I am Blind!!!
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Postby Chorlton_Ruffian » Fri May 12, 2006 9:13 am

Definitely The Headmaster Ritual. Bombastic as it gets.
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Postby Alabaster Crashes Down » Fri May 12, 2006 9:25 am

ASK!
THIS CHARMING MAN!
RUSHOLME RUFFIANS!

all the upbeat ones, trust me. especially this charming man and ask. I love ask.

ask, ask ask ask. I really like ask.
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Postby Bref » Fri May 12, 2006 2:09 pm

Shoplifters and Sheila, both cathcy and fun
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Postby sonandheir » Fri May 12, 2006 2:35 pm

* How Soon Is Now?
* What Difference Does It Make?
* William It Was Really Nothing
* This Charming Man
* There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
* Barbarism Begins At Home
* Panic
* Shoplifters Of The World
* The Queen Is Dead
* Bigmouth Strikes Again
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