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Strangeways • View topic - The Smiths and autism

The Smiths and autism

All about The Smiths' music, gigs, stories, anything.

Postby Cracked Pleasures » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:59 am

This is a post I made on the forum for Asperger sufferers where I post. I thought it was quite relevant maybe to copy it here as well. The post came out of a topic on songs that appeal to people in the autism spectrum.
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The Smiths to me is the ultimate aspie band. Songs like "How soon is now" are true Aspergian anthems, as the feelings are so recognisable to many Aspies. I also quote Morrissey very regularly in daily life, he just expresses many feelings I recognise in my own Aspieness.

I think How Soon Is Now is the ultimate Aspie song:

I am the son and the heir of a shyness that is criminal of others
I am the son and heir of nothing in particular

You shut your mouth, how can you say: I go about things the wrong way?
I am human and I need to be loved, just like everybody else does

I am the son and the heir of a shyness that is criminal of others
I am the son and heir of nothing in particular

You shut your mouth, how can you say: I go about things the wrong way?
I am human and I need to be loved, just like everybody else does

There's a club you would like to go
You could meet somebody who really loves you
So you go and you stand on your own, and you leave on your own
And you go home, and you cry and you want to die


When you say it's gonna happen NOW
when exactly do you mean?
See I've already waited too long, and all my hope is gone




That part about that club could be based on my life :shock:

However, more lines of Smiths songs that can be seen as Aspie-related:


Shyness is nice, shyness can stop you from saying all the things in life you'd like to

Take me out tonight, to where there's music and people and they're young and alive (reflects the desire of many of us Aspies to meet other people and to go out socialising, but then the inability to do so is explained in other Smiths songs such as How Soon Is Now)

And in the darkened underpass I thought: oh God my chance has come at last
But then a strange fear gripped me and I just couldn't ask

(expressing the inability to express one's feelings, something that I did notice with some of the Aspergians I have met)

And sorrow's native son, he will not smile for anyone

She wants it NOW and she will not wait
But she's too rough and I'm too delicate





Apart from that I get much moral support and energy from my all-time favourite band Echo & The Bunnymen, whose songs sometimes tackle the same feeling of isolation and being misunderstand, and whose songs tackle more OCD-related feelings and reflections sometimes.

Couldn't it be that us Aspies are more devotely into music and mainly into lyrics, because we tend to find strength and courage out of lyrics that reflect our own feelings? I mean, the majority of mainstream music expresses feelings and scenes that are very neurotypical and far from what we experience ourselves, whereas the more Aspie-reflecting music can give us the feeling of not being alone with our issues.

Maybe that's just me though, but I do experience that feeling. Music is very important to me, and I wouldn't classify it as just a hobby or interest. It's as essential as breathing and eating. I get my strength out of arts and writing poetry myself is a form of escapism. I couldn't do without it, and I do recognise that same devotion to arts in some of the other Aspergians I have come across.
Keep it flaming your desire, always rising higher - Aim for stars and hit the sky
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Postby HandsomeDevil » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:38 pm

Hate to be anal - but its actually .....of a shyness that is criminally vulgar
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Postby Cracked Pleasures » Fri Jun 02, 2006 1:41 pm

Oops, what a typo :blink: I must have been miles away...
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Postby Cracked Pleasures » Fri Jun 02, 2006 3:31 pm

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Postby Cracked Pleasures » Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:58 pm

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Postby Cracked Pleasures » Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:49 pm

You guys are so flattering ;) I don't think it would make that much of a good paper, I just wrote down some feelings I have when listening to these songs, feelings in the songs that somehow to appeal to my autistic side and that I notice didn't go unnoticed neither with other autistics...

However, I have been asked to get involved in a project containing writings and poems by people with Asperger Syndrome. Purpose is to raise awareness for the issue and to show the outside world that below our autistic surface we have normal desires and feelings like everyone else. I am not too wild about publishing writings of my own, but for this project I think I will make an exception, I think I'm morally obliged towards all my fellow Aspies. I have experienced how hard it can be to grow up with AS while the people surrounding you know little or nothing about autism, so if I can help in raising awareness then I am happy to corporate in any such project.

By the way, there's more music than just Smiths which has an autistic undertone. I always found "With A Hip" by Echo & The Bunnymen a very autistic song somehow (some other songs of them then seem to somewhat refer to OCD: Crocodiles, The Back Of Love) and The Cure have some autistic-feeling songs as well (eg "sometimes I'm dreaming while all other people dance" - "Charlotte sometimes dreams a wall around herself")
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Postby WordsAsOldAsSin » Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:34 am

well good for you mate :), its always good when we find something to relate to.
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Postby Cracked Pleasures » Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:31 pm

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