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Postby Mozzerella » Thu Apr 13, 2006 9:34 pm

I like it and I'm gonna buy it. Actually I might as well order it off Amazon right away...

Still Ill wrote:I won't bother trying to understand the charts. I never have. But I'd have thought ROTT would have fared better than that. It's a better album than YATQ, in my opinion, and despite the streams of his album available, I would have thought it would attract more sales. Maybe they'll continue to go up, instead of plummet out of sight in the next couple of weeks.


I think ROTT is better than YATQ as well. Let's hope the sales continue to go up. :)
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Postby Chorlton_Ruffian » Thu Apr 13, 2006 11:29 pm

It's growing on me. A bit.
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Postby Lazy Dyke » Fri Apr 14, 2006 1:23 pm

The only track I don't like on ROTT is "Dear God Please Help Me"

I think it's a quality album, it flows much better than YATQ.. even if it doesn't have the three or four really good tracks YATQ does have.. it doesn't have the weak ones either that YATQ has... it flows very well as a whole.
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Postby Xuu » Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:48 pm

why the hell is Morrissey holding a violin? that won't make him look more artistic...
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Postby Rodchenko » Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:54 pm

It has something to do with some italian classical music label.... The ROTT cover is suppose to resemble the covers of those records...
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Postby Lazy Dyke » Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:55 pm

Not sure if that's true but it probably has some kind of deeper meaning or admiration on Morrisseys behalf. All of his covers tend to hold some meaning appose to him just standing and posing or something.
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Postby Xuu » Sat Apr 15, 2006 6:58 pm

...can you explain the cover of World Of Morrissey? his dark side? :P
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Postby Rodchenko » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:07 pm

Isn't that just some old boxer?
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Postby Lazy Dyke » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:18 pm

I think it is a boxer yes, but it looks rather like Morrissey.
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Postby Rodchenko » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:20 pm

Oh, that I know it's not... he had a deep affection for boxing around 1995 when the compilation was released.
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Postby Xuu » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:24 pm

i think Morrissey's records suffer from bad covers...Southpaw...Malaadjusted...Bona Drag (a little gay)...Ringleader...
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Postby Rodchenko » Sat Apr 15, 2006 7:34 pm

Agree. The Smiths had better covers... But Ringleader I like!
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Postby Sweet and Tender Hooligan » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:32 am

Ringleader is amazing!!!! :D

he now appears on most of his albums now, out of the proper studio albums its only southpaw that doesnt have him on it for some unknown reason.

viva hate and bona drag are really cool too. and you forgetting the immensly gay cover on your arsenal - a classic! :P
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Postby madmancmonkey » Wed Apr 19, 2006 12:45 pm

Nah its not that good .... <_< the way you guys went on you would think it was your arsenal ... samey guitar beats dont help. I want my tenner back!! :o
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Postby Still Ill » Wed Apr 19, 2006 2:40 pm

I listened to YATQ the other night. I think ROTT is a far better record. Rockier with more bombastic flair.

Some misc ramblings:

'I Just Want To See the Boy Happy' is still my least favorite, even though I'm warming up to the music. I've decided I don't like the way Moz sounds in the first opening verse. The drumming is overdone. It still sounds like a cheesy rock song to me.

'The Father Who Must Be Killed' once of his wittiest, lyrically, sounds like the Pornographers' Twin Cinema. I love the sound of the drums/percussion.

'Pigsty', great beginning, moody and upbeat, it sounds like a Bryan Ferry song from his Mamouna/post Bete Noire period. Then the song slows, and takes on a new life with acoustic guitars.

'In the Future When All's Well', probably my favorite. I wish this song was longer. I love the guitar riffs, very catchy tune, with simple lyics, "living longer than I have intended, something must have gone right!" It will do well as a single.

'Dear God' is beautiful, even though it doesn't peak, musically. I still tend to wince at the lyrics, yes, I do believe in God.

I disagree with people's assessments of the samey sound. It's not samey throughout the record, maybe what was meant was that he returns to an old familiar style.
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