Mike Joyce

What have the rhythm section been up to since The Smiths?

Postby Still Ill » Tue Jun 07, 2005 7:49 am

Thought anyone out there in Smithdom would be interested in reading this recent article in the Manchester Metro News about Mike. I've always been a fan of his....
<a href='http://www.metronews.co.uk/magazine/article/0/625_mike_joyce_a_vinny_peculiar_practice.htm' target='_blank'>here</a>

Thought this was interesting (on Johnny) from the same interview:
"I saw Johnny at Mani's (Stone Roses bass player) 40th last year. He said hello and I said hello back, and that was it," he recalls.
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Postby tallulahtaurus » Tue Jun 07, 2005 10:29 am

apparently that article doesn't exist....how sad that they just say hello and walk away...<!--emo&:(-->Image<!--endemo--> i guess it is only to be expected tho, i am suprised johnny spoke!!
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Postby Still Ill » Wed Jun 08, 2005 6:36 am

Ah crap, here it is:

Mike Joyce: A Vinny Peculiar Practice

THERE'S a few familiar faces in Vinny Peculiar's backing band.

With Mike Joyce on drums, Andy Rourke on bass, and Craig Gannon - who played briefly alongside Johnny Marr in 1986 - on guitar, you could be forgiven for seeing this as the Smiths reunion that never was. Unsurprisingly, that is not how Mike sees it.

"The reason me and Andy started working with him is because we went to see him and liked it. The Smiths side had nothing to do with it," he said.

"We got Craig in because we needed a second guitarist. The one thing that put us off was the idea people would think it had anything to do with The Smiths, because it didn't. He's in the band because he's a good guitarist and a good lad."

Things have been far from quiet for Mike since The Smiths broke up in 1987. His CV reads like a Who's Who of punk legends, and he has enjoyed stints with The Buzzcocks, Julian Cope and Public Image Limited, featuring John Lydon and ex-Magazine and Siouxsie And The Banshees guitarist John McGeoch.

But although this may have seemed like a crowning achievement for the Chorlton-on-Medlock lad brought up on punk, Mike seems more excited about his latest project.

He said: "The reason I got excited playing with Johnny Rotten was because I was playing with Johnny Rotten. It was the same with The Buzzcocks - I started playing drums because I'd seen them in Manchester in 78.

"These were the bands I was dancing about to as a kid, so playing with them was a massive buzz.

"For me it almost felt like karaoke, or like I was in a covers band, but with this we're trying to create something from scratch. It's a bit more interesting with Vinny Peculiar, we're trying to create something that'll become legendary."

Mike said he wasn't interested in getting involved with a new band when his old mate Andy told him about a gig they should go and see. The concert, at the city centre's Star And Garter venue, featured Vinny Peculiar playing guitar and singing on his own. Mike was impressed with someone having the bottle to get up on stage without a backing band, and also became "a big fan" of the singer's unusual style. He discovered Vinny Peculiar had been around for years without a full time band, even supporting artists like Nils Lofgren and Jools Holland. The former Smiths' rhythm section began working with him last year as a full time fixture, and more members were added.

After touring Ireland last year, and supporting bands like The Killers and British Sea Power, they are releasing a single next week and have a series of UK dates lined up over the summer.

Mike described what struck him about the singer: "His songs are really interesting. They're almost like stories with a beginning, middle and end. It's not just `here's the uplifting chorus you're supposed to sing along to'.

"There's humour in his lyrics but it's not custard pie humour, it's real pathos. There's a bit of Morrissey in there."

The Smiths legend turned sour in the 90s when Mike sued Morrissey for lost royalties, claiming the singer held the band's purse strings, giving him and Andy a much smaller share of the profits. High Court Judge Weeks found in the drummer's favour. Apart from on one brief occasion, Mike has not spoken to the singer, or to Johnny Marr, since the court case, and says that is a state of affairs he is very happy with.

"I saw Jonny at Mani's (Stone Roses bass player) 40th last year. He said hello and I said hello back, and that was it," he recalls.

"That'll do for me. I don't want some big reunion where we sit down and talk about the old days."

Vinny Peculiar and the band play The Bierkeller on June 17. The single is out now.
by Conrad Astley

Couldn't he name the single that's out now? Crappy journalism!
I was struck by the fact that they supported The Killers and BSP!
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